Tuesday, September 14, 2004

Firefox 1.0 Preview Release

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Oh, and before I forget, here's where you can accessorize your blog with cool foxy buttons too. Now now, I wouldn't want my dear readers to get jealous and upset over some nice and shiny buttons, would I? :P


Blogger kyougoh said...

I use Firefox too. Good stuff. Thunderbird is a good product as well, although their adaptive spam filtering isn't working out very well for me.

Thanks for linking. Your "Bean" moniker - from Card's Ender series?

Wed Sep 15, 05:37:00 AM GMT+8  
Blogger AcidFlask said...

Thunderbird's spam filtering has been working really well for me. It just needs enough spam to figure out what is spam and what isn't. Maybe you just don't get enough :)

Wed Sep 15, 05:52:00 AM GMT+8  
Blogger kyougoh said...

Trust me, having my address splashed over the net with each article gets me more than 80 spam mails a day for my public address. Damn spiders. I am now using GMail for my public e-mail -- they deal with spam very well. Thunderbird's rate for me is about 80%, far less than what Paul Graham outlined in articles here. Granted, a lot of spam nowadays is designed to get past Bayesian filters, but I still expect more of Thunderbird. It does have a very low false positive rate though.

Wed Sep 15, 06:28:00 AM GMT+8  
Blogger bean said...

T Goh: U're welcome! The bean moniker was from yuexiang actually - claimed i reminded him of rowan atkinson. But yes I've read the Ender series. Did you?

And yes Thunderbird's spam filters seem abit flaky for me too, as of 0.7.3. Trust me Jiahao I also get more than enough spam on my old school account. Oh yes and the emails designed to get thru Bayesian filters can get quite bizarre. Not to mention the commment spam that's starting to plague blogs as well.

Btw how do gmail's spam filters measure up? I have yet to get spammed there (if one doesn't count lousy forwarded jokes as spam), although I suspect this blissful state may be ephemeral.

Wed Sep 15, 11:40:00 AM GMT+8  
Blogger AcidFlask said...

I pre-trained my Thunderbird (0.8 is out btw) on my Yahoo account using my YPOPS! to download all my mail on it and aliased to my university account. I think it helped a lot for real traffic on my uni address, which is pretty heavily spammed (~100 messages a day). It kept screwing up and I had to keep training it until it stabilized. But now and then it still kinda screws up, on the order of 1 message/day. I do agree that Gmail's filters seem to be working better but still has false positives, which is pretty bad. Yahoo's spam filters are really good, considering I get 500+ junk emails daily on it and when I check once in a while, it never produced a false positive on non-spam.

Thu Sep 16, 01:46:00 AM GMT+8  
Blogger bean said...

Yes false positives are a no-no. Thunderbird gives me false positives once in a while. But it could be because I didn't re-train my filters after upgrading, as I've been using it since the early versions. Perhaps some re-training is in order when I change to 0.8

Thu Sep 16, 11:04:00 AM GMT+8  
Blogger kyougoh said...

Yes, I read both the subpar trilogy that followed Ender and the much better trilogy that followed Bean and Peter. I think there's been a new book since then but he's obviously mining it for money now from what I've heard about it (War of Souls, anyone?).

Haven't used Gmail enough to make a final decision on its effectiveness at dealing with spam. Btw with a fast upload speed and possibility of exponential accounts (assuming every new account gets 6 after some usage), you can build a nice online repository for files, albeit with some trouble. 1 GB is enough to store a CD image plus a few more goodies. Haven't really explored this though.

Thu Sep 16, 03:44:00 PM GMT+8  
Blogger tucque said...

Thought about that before... problem is I think gmail has a size limit on each email, so can't just simply massively upload. Of course one could write a script that chops up the file and then uploads it, and a corresponding script that reassembles it again on downloading to get around that problem. But quite mafan in any case.

Thu Sep 16, 10:53:00 PM GMT+8  
Blogger bean said...

Actually I really liked the orginal trilogy. Re-read Ender's game many times during one June hols. Still remember Jiedong lent me his zapped copy.

The new series from Bean's point of view is not bad, but I think only the first book was on par with the old ones. The next two in the series weren't as quite as good.

Thu Sep 16, 11:26:00 PM GMT+8  
Blogger AcidFlask said...

btw bean this is for you:


Sun Sep 19, 05:04:00 AM GMT+8  
Blogger bean said...

lol, nice!

Mon Sep 20, 10:58:00 PM GMT+8  

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